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Bush Admin. students of Nazi propaganda tactics?
all systems are the same, they just use a different name
Published on June 19, 2005 By
Toblerone
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Island Dog
on Jul 03, 2005
Clinton and Cheney were far more honest then Bush about not wanting to be sent to Vietnam. They used deferments to stay out of the military while Bush used daddy's contacts to get him in the National Guard, which during Vietnem, was a very good way not to be sent to fight while giving the illusion of military service! Add the fact Bush did not meet the committments he agreed to when he was commissioned in the Guard, makes Bush is far more dishonest then either Cheney or Clinton!
Can you show who exactly these "contacts" were?
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drmiler
on Jul 03, 2005
Clinton and Cheney were far more honest then Bush about not wanting to be sent to Vietnam. They used deferments to stay out of the military
Wrong answer! Now try again! Yes Cheney used deferments, Clinton on the other hand did not.
Clinton's Military record:
Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 08, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft.
Given Selective Service Number 3 26 46 228.
Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964.
* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968.
* Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28,1969.
* Bill Clinton dishonors order to report and is not inducted into the military.
* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07,1969 under authority of Col.E.Holmes. and takes oath of enlistment.
* Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969.
* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40 (2)(a) 'registrant who has failed to report...remain liable for induction'.
* Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1, 1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction, is INELIGIBLE!
* Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40.
* Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976),while a fugitive from justice.
* Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21, 1977 from Carter.
* Bill Clinton FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President.
All these facts come from Freedom of Information requests, public laws, and various books that have been published, and have not been refuted by Clinton.
Aside from an improper application of public law, the events outlined above are basically correct, at least until the author draws the fallacious conclusion that Clinton was a criminal for his actions. A complete account of Clinton's elaborate draft-dodge is given in the reference cited below, but the gist is this:
Eighteen-year old Bill enters Georgetown University and registers for Selective Service, as required by law. His status as a full-time student earns him a deferrment.
In his senior year, Bill receives a Rhodes Scholarship to study at Oxford University.
In February of 1968, the Federal Government eliminates draft deferments for graduate students and Bill once again becomes eligible in March of that year.
Clinton subsequently, though family and political connections, obtains a Navy Billet from the local naval reserve unit and temporary draft protection from the Garland County Draft Board, allowing him to start at Oxford - special treatment that was not uncommon for Rhode's Scholars of the day.
Clinton completes his first term at Oxford in December, 1969, and is ordered to report for a physical in January, which he did.
In April 1969, Bill was ordered to report for induction. However, delays in International mail delivery resulted in Clinton receiving his orders after the induction date had passed. By this time, he had begun his second term at Oxford. Regulations allowed him to complete the term, but he must report for induction by July 28, 1969.
Once again utilizing extensive political connections, Clinton gets accepted into the University of Arkansas ROTC program on July 17, nullifying his draft notice. Clinton would not have to enroll until he completed basic training the following year.
In the fall of '69, Clinton opts to return to Oxford, rather than enroll in the University of Arkansas Law School. While at Oxford, Clinton contacts the draft board to drop his ROTC deferment and return to active status. By this time, regulations had changed, allowing graduate students to complete their schooling before reporting for military duty. Clinton had a high enough draft number to virtually ensure he would not be called.
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COL Gene
on Jul 03, 2005
There is no doubt Clinton and Cheney did not want to serve in Vietnam. My point is that neither did Bush but Bush unlike Clinton and Cheney made it look as if he served but did not fulfull the responsibilities he agreed to when he accepted a commission. The Air Force spent a lot of tax payer money training Bush to be a pilot and that was his job in the Air Guard . When he failed to attend drills and maintain flight proficiency and did not take the required flight physical he failed no only obey orders as an officer but was unable to fulfill his function in the Air Gurad. He then applied for an early release and an honorable discharge.. The help Bush had getting into the guard was the former Speaker of the Texas House. I do not know who protected Bush from receiving puninhment for not attending drills and taking his physical. I also do not know who approved his early honorable discharge. However, his CO was pressured by the then commandig general of the Texas Air Guard.
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